If need to get some essential commodities. Hw does she get them.
MSG_047
After your project don't try to settle down there. Come back
MSG_048
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When u r going to Thailand?
MSG_052
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Received [AMOUNT REDACTED] in my account. [NAME REDACTED] ke exams kaise gaye
MSG_056
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if possible send ceevas with [NAME REDACTED] . confidential. AM ko pata nahi chalna
MSG_138
Ceevas kya hota hai?
MSG_139
it is scotch whisky
MSG_140
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Chivas regal?
MSG_142
😄
MSG_143
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we are going to bangkok on 12 Nov and leaving on 17th night. can you check what are the best places to visit in bangkok and nearby places. our accommodation is booked gor these dates in bangkok
MSG_147
Shopping - Platinum mall, Indra mall
MSG_148
more info
MSG_149
Temple of reclining buddha
MSG_150
please
MSG_151
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Then there is temple of emerald buddha..wat Phra kew
MSG_157
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You can visit one of the Buddha temples.. really famous ones in bangkok
MSG_167
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Street food
MSG_171
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If you want to t/f any amount to india for whatsoever be the reason, I suggest you to t/f the same to our A/cs
MSG_196
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Usse kya hota hai?
MSG_198
i will gave source of receipt for investments
MSG_199
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Many people say gold is good investment. I say gold is gambling. What is the difference between gambling and investment. Investment is something that creates regular income E.g regular interest income, profit income, rental income, dividend income. Gold does not generate anything useful. It is only used by fickle people for vanity or meaningless show off or as temporary safety in situations of panic..
-Warren Buffet
MSG_201
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hi what [NAME REDACTED] want, Gold kya
MSG_205
Analysis
Anchor: MSG_196
Analyst Narrative
Unexplained Fund Routing
Finding
A practicing Chartered Accountant appears to suggest that any funds being transferred to India, regardless of purpose, should be routed through "our accounts." He then states that he would provide a "source of receipt for investments."
Why this matters
The exchange raises questions about why intermediary accounts were proposed, who controlled those accounts, and whether any receipts would accurately reflect the actual source, beneficiary, and purpose of the funds. The concern is heightened by other alleged payments routed through education expenses, jewelers, and third-party accounts.
Limitation
These messages raise a significant financial-compliance concern but do not, by themselves, establish hawala, money laundering, a benami transaction, tax evasion, or professional misconduct.
This is an analyst observation. Consult source records for evidentiary use.
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Laptop leliye kya
MSG_258
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[NAME REDACTED] left US kya
MSG_264
Ha ha.. ya.. keep the surprise
MSG_265
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how much dollars [NAME REDACTED] is getting
MSG_269
[AMOUNT REDACTED] ..
MSG_270
Are u ska thoda Locha hua.. [AMOUNT REDACTED] is daily limit from ATM.. I tried to take out more n the card got blocked.. I called customer care n requested to increase.. they could Max increase daily limit only to [AMOUNT REDACTED] .. last moment pe hua.. so could not even take help from friends as we were getting late for flight
MSG_271
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However if you are booking flight.. paying for hotel, card transactions you can use my credit card details.. it does not have currency conversion fee for any currency in world..
MSG_273
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yes, right time for people having white money
MSG_289
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get in gold
MSG_291
😁
MSG_292
OK ya..
MSG_293
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need laptop I3 configuration
MSG_374
I3 ok.
MSG_375
For what purpose?
MSG_376
office
MSG_377
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plot work at Kondapur completed
MSG_394
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Chevela road
MSG_504
hot property as on date
MSG_505
I booked it
MSG_506
If u want u can share with me 50-50
MSG_507
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Booked plot no 5
MSG_509
How much is cost
MSG_510
Are you free now
MSG_511
Will call today night
MSG_512
Masaji let me know when you are free. [NAME REDACTED] told me about the property
MSG_513
I am interested in it.
MSG_514
Ok will discuss
MSG_515
will call u
MSG_516
Cost of the land is [AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_517
Intially we have to pay 25% of the amount maybe in couple of days
MSG_518
Almost [AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_519
He has put our property for resale also, If u want to hold it then we will buy
MSG_520
The whole amount has to be paid in 3 months
MSG_521
ur share will be [AMOUNT REDACTED] plus registration charges
MSG_522
I think it is better if we hold the property as it is on main road
MSG_523
Still if we find anything beneficial immediately will also try to sell
MSG_524
All this I will let u know
MSG_525
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Work at our site
MSG_527
Unless we get crazy huge return or something I think we can hold.
MSG_528
[AMOUNT REDACTED] immediately dena hai
MSG_529
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Can u t/f the amount to [NAME REDACTED] no
MSG_552
account no
MSG_553
We have to make 25% payment immediately
MSG_554
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My conversation with him
MSG_557
I am doing this investment think good of u, Rest is our luck. Again u can take your call
MSG_558
Okay. All good.
MSG_559
paid [AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_560
ur share [AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_561
Paid him [AMOUNT REDACTED] . [AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_562
u/f [AMOUNT REDACTED] in [NAME REDACTED] account
MSG_563
Okay 👍
MSG_564
He said mostly in 3 months we will be able to sell at 14000
MSG_565
That we will decide what to do at that time
MSG_566
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Yup dekhenge if there is opportunity to encash and invest in better place.
MSG_568
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I can transfer money from my India account directly
MSG_570
Should I first transfer to [NAME REDACTED] and then she transfer to [Relation redacted] . Tax issues kya cheez karne se kam hoga?
MSG_571
No issues
MSG_572
[NAME REDACTED] ko t/f kardo
MSG_573
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Deepak Daga, H. No: 3-4-132/1, Flat No. 201, Royal Prestige Apartment, Near Shalini Hospital, Barkatpura, Hyderabad- 500027
(M) 9963700100
MSG_587
Masaji. In Hyderabad now..
MSG_588
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My birthday [BIRTH DETAILS REDACTED]
MSG_596
[BIRTH DETAILS REDACTED] place of birth
MSG_597
[NAME REDACTED] is asking her birth exact timing.
MSG_598
Will tell
MSG_599
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Ye panditji mere client hai. All political and film starts uske clients hai
MSG_605
Will contact him and show ur horoscopes
MSG_606
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Hi profile panditji
MSG_608
😀
MSG_609
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prices have shooted up now
MSG_616
Kitne ho gaye?
MSG_617
14-15 is possible to sell as on now
MSG_618
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[AMOUNT REDACTED] .[AMOUNT REDACTED] will be your contribution. Paid [AMOUNT REDACTED] . Balance is [AMOUNT REDACTED] .
MSG_625
T/f [AMOUNT REDACTED] to Pavanji after they reach Australia
MSG_626
Balance [AMOUNT REDACTED] u send to [NAME REDACTED] account
MSG_627
Gift lit for tax free is [AMOUNT REDACTED] . It will be better to transfer [AMOUNT REDACTED] to Pavanji
MSG_628
Will transfer around [AMOUNT REDACTED] - [AMOUNT REDACTED] in India. Abhi [AMOUNT REDACTED] apne account me transfer kar diya. Thoda traveling tha to delay ho gaya. 2 Feb tak pahuchega. From my Account in India is it better to transfer to [Relation redacted] account directly or first [NAME REDACTED] account to avoid tax issues in India.
MSG_629
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Will transfer the rest by 30 Jan. 3-4 din lag jayenge sab [Relation redacted] ke account me pahuchne
MSG_631
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MSG_633
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Will get you the Indian [AMOUNT REDACTED] in 4-5 days
MSG_635
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I think you can pay Aman fee directly then it should be good
MSG_637
Let me decide how much you have to pay his college fee
MSG_638
Analysis
Anchor: MSG_605
Analyst Narrative
Vallabhkul Pashu Vamachari Supersition Mongering Tantrik? Which all politicians and actors are involved?
This is an analyst observation. Consult source records for evidentiary use.
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I paid total of [AMOUNT REDACTED] . Cost me [AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_646
Comes to [AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_647
If u have paid little more than [AMOUNT REDACTED] let me know. Balance i will deposit in [NAME REDACTED] account
MSG_648
So all your payment is done
MSG_649
No..It's good now
MSG_650
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Aman fee completely paid?
MSG_654
Thanks 🙏
MSG_655
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Took 15 days to check the message
MSG_668
Busy
MSG_669
Nahi nahi whatsapp messages me dabb gaya niche. Went unnoticed
MSG_670
How are things?
MSG_671
Mera cell phone me thoda problems hai..
MSG_672
Phone refresh kiya to whatsapp back me issues hue
MSG_673
that's why had to exit all group
MSG_674
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।। विजयते श्री बालकृष्णलाल प्रभु ।।
🙏🏻श्री कृष्णाय नमः🙏🏻
स्वस्ति: भगवत कृपा से आचार्यचरण श्री वल्लभ प्रभु के परम अनुग्रह स्वरुप जतीपुरा स्तिथ श्री गिरिराजजी में यमुनाजी की कृपा व वल्लभकुल के सन्निधान में प्रभु श्री गिरिराजजी की महापूजा व यथाशक्ति सामग्री अरोगाने का मनोरथ हमारे बड़ो के आशीर्वाद एवं सुकृत से उदय हुआ है। इस मनोरथ में आप सभी प्रेमी भवदीय वैष्णवजन हमारे संग पधारकर उत्साह वर्धन करे।
दिनांक: 30 नवंबर 2019
यह मंगलमय यात्रा 28 नवंबर 2019 से 02 दिसंबर 2019 तक हे।
विनीत: मुरारी मंत्री नेहा मंत्री
दीपक डागा अरुणा डागा
Why to Invest at Shadnagar???
aboutting NH-7/44 Longest NH in India
5km from Proposed and Approved Regional
Ring Road (338 kms)-RRR
Railway stations (MMTS) and Bus terminal.
Less than 25 minutes travel to Rajiv Gandhi
International Airport (5400 Acres)
Butterfly commercial Junction,ORR connected (16 Roads)
Raidal roads to connection btw ORR-RRR
Proposed Metro rail upto Airport.
Kothur MMTS Junction 24 tracks
Aviation hub/TATA-Boeing Aero Factory
TATA-GE Aero Engine Factory
National Remote sensing Center(NRSC)
Apollo,Mayo GMR Medical Tourism project
Surrounded by mega townships of DLF and My Home.
P&G/ Johnson & Johnson..
Hyderabad Pharma city..in 19333 Acres
SEZ’s of IT and Pharma.
Dr.Reddys
Aurobindo Pharma
Hetro
MSN Lab
NATCO
Mobile manufacturing SEZ
Budvel IT Park
TCS campus
Cognizant SEZ
Amazon Fulfilment/Ware house([AMOUNT REDACTED] sft)
Multi-product & Green park industrial area.
Hardware Park and Fab city.
Apparel & Jewels Park.
9 engineering & 2 Medical colleges.
Textile and Jem park
Proposed Novotel star hotel in shadnagar
Symbiosis International University
SUKKAM University
Amusement park by wonderla
Zoo Park shift to Shadnagar.824 Acres
Rajiv Gandhi Nano Technology
Metro cash & carry Mall
Biotech park
Indian Oil Filling Unit
Chinna Jeeyar Trust.College&Hospital
Statue of Equality..216 feet worlds 2nd biggest Ramanuja Statue
Balanagar Industrial Cluster.
MSG_715
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U can talk to him and refer my name
MSG_721
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If possible i too will call him
MSG_723
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Everything OK now. I helped her. We will have to learn to control tempers
MSG_731
You both come out of your egos. My suggestion to u both is care for your family and keep it on top priority. Enjoy the life of a family and by Gods grace we are blessed with an angel who has brought all the happiness of the world to us. Enjoy every moment of life.
Life is beautiful when u love someone and being loved aswell. For this we have to forgive our partner whatsoever.
MSG_732
Take my example we have been living together for the past 25 years and we have never ever fought. We decided that whenever any issues comes we will put a stop to it and forget that issue. Follow this maybe u guys too will never have issues hereafter
MSG_733
After pregnancy a womens hormones changes and her nature changes depending upon the surrounding environment. Hardly its a month for her to come to India. Take care of her fully for a month and then she will have good view about u
MSG_734
Now its upto you to decide about your future life with her
MSG_735
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We try to see that our care for each other doesn’t come down and find ways to keep ourselves attracted to each other. All these are in our hands to keep relationship happier
MSG_737
I m trying mu best to make u guys understand about life. Just follow my advice and u will surely have a healthy relatioship
MSG_738
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Aman wants a laptop
MSG_744
he will check with u
MSG_745
[NAME REDACTED] will be coming to India soon, [NAME REDACTED] passport on way to us
MSG_746
Good
MSG_747
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Not sure how she will manage in her job.
MSG_749
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She will call her family members and say things in distorted manner and badmouth me. This is not how to live in family life.
MSG_751
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I think going to India will help. Right now both of us are filled with bitterness and frustration. Ultimately if we don't learn time and situations will force, but easier life if we learn before situations force..
MSG_758
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We cannot even solve out own issues, how will we learn to solve issues of younger generation when we grow up 🤒
MSG_760
Yup and both of u can easily resolve ur issues. Think good for each other
MSG_761
https://www.linkedin.com/[redacted]
MSG_762
And one more thing we all care for you. Dont carry any negative feeling for anyone. We love u both equally
MSG_763
My vision is for both of us to be like him and his wife. Both are high level leaders, annually [AMOUNT REDACTED] to Bana lete honge plus both manage their own stock portfolio, to avoid bad decision by one negatively influence whole family. They also raised one child who is now working in consulting firm. Abhi probably they don't even need to do anything. But if we get trapped in small things at this stage, fir life long living like insects is painful.
MSG_764
Culturally they are similar marvadi, mere ek chachi ke brother.
MSG_765
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You guys too have a great future. Make a good one and enjoy ur life
MSG_768
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After getting enough money we can come to India and do some business there. But for that we need to be efficient. Minimum effort me maximum result. I also want her to be independent which she herself wanted to be. I encouraged her get back to driving after pregnancy so you can do small things gs where baby is not required to go with you on your own.
MSG_770
every human being deserve independence but with it comes responsibility, when someone refuses responsibility they cannot be independent as they have to listen to others who take responsibility. That's entire problem. Abhi her DS160 I have to fill. How will she become high level leader this way?
MSG_771
So she is free to decide what she want based on her independence. I can continue to fill her ds160, drive her here and there, but then she has to become home maker, cook food, wash utensil, clothes, take care of baby and burp and make great house as all our mothers have been doing till now. It's her freedom to choose. This is common problem of modern Indian females 🙄
MSG_772
True, maybe once she comes out of her post pregnancy and after [NAME REDACTED] grows. She will succeed
MSG_773
Abhi ke liye lets wait and watch
MSG_774
Ya...
MSG_775
Analysis
Anchor: MSG_731
Tags
Behavioral Context
Analyst Narrative
Acknowledging early instances of temper issues and showing willingness to support and resolve them.
This is an analyst observation. Consult source records for evidentiary use.
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I will not allow [NAME REDACTED] to take [NAME REDACTED] to India. She is going mad.
MSG_785
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I will have to call 911 if she indulges in further violence
MSG_788
In this mental state she cannot be trusted otherwise she will then tell lies and try to implicate me
MSG_789
I think hereafter I should not involve
MSG_790
I already took her to visa appointment yesterday spent 5 hours yelling lies in my office that I have appointment. She just has to go and collect visa that's all
MSG_791
Rji I feel you don’t frustrated her. She may mot be mentally fit. Support for some time. After she gets relaxed maybe she will behave properly. It is between us
MSG_792
Dont share with anyone
MSG_793
Something wrong is going on. Need to counsel when she comes to India
MSG_794
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Masaji it's night for you. Please sleep 😴 all is well here. I will take care of her. I think we just need to show some care to each other.
MSG_796
Please don't worry at all now
MSG_797
Thanks 🙏
MSG_798
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Masaji you are free please let me know. I have a tax related question
MSG_869
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He he. Bas coming in few days. Visa appointment mil gaya
MSG_878
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I need an Iphone latest
MSG_880
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Iphone 13, 13 pro ke 13 pro max.
MSG_882
13 pro max what will be the price
MSG_883
Will check latest deal
MSG_884
13 Pro will be fine
MSG_885
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Kiske pics?
MSG_916
An Villa is available on sale
MSG_917
[AMOUNT REDACTED]
MSG_918
Triplex
MSG_919
Oh kitna sq ft?
MSG_920
Aur apko kya lagta hai? Area, lication price point is good?
My client already documents done due to some bank issue. I thought its a good buy so informed u
MSG_926
Ok I am interested.
MSG_927
[NAME REDACTED] can see property.
MSG_928
It's 15 mins from hitech city
MSG_929
Infosys se 10 min. Good location
MSG_930
2681 sq ft
MSG_931
Will call you let me know when free
MSG_932
If possible get Scotch
MSG_933
Kaunsi pasand?
MSG_934
Chivas
MSG_935
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Dont tell anyone
MSG_937
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If possible a non leather jacket for Ayush.
MSG_939
Size maybe less than yours
MSG_940
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I will check
MSG_942
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Dhang ka Jacket mil hi nahi rahe. Premium stores me mil sakte but will be too much price to matlab nahi. Agar thoda pehle pata chalta to online order karta. I will keep checking as I go - Kuch mila to leke aata.
MSG_944
ok cool
MSG_945
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Akshita Rathi
[Phone number redacted] - Zelle - Bofa
MSG_991
Who is this?
MSG_992
ignore
MSG_993
Ok let me know if you need to send anything to her
MSG_994
Thanks. Issue reaolved
MSG_995
resolved
MSG_996
How r u
MSG_997
Hope All is fine
MSG_998
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Masaji, Concept Ambience commercial are they still selling? Will they give same rate for loan? If not we can ask loan rate. Please let me know when free. I will call.
MSG_1006
They will deal in out right purchase. They had min 2500 sq. ft area which was beyond our budget
MSG_1007
I dont know now at what price they will offer
MSG_1008
Ok. India me commercial loan they give 80%
MSG_1009
Can we check?
MSG_1010
It is about to commence venture.
MSG_1011
In a function
MSG_1012
Matlab? Did not get
MSG_1013
Venture is about to commence. So bank will not lend on that
MSG_1014
If the venture is about to complete then we can get the loan
MSG_1015
Oho..
MSG_1016
Still I will check with them about the pricing and payment procedure
MSG_1017
If they cannot use loan to fir we won't be able to immediately fund.
MSG_1018
yeah thats is what i was conveying
MSG_1019
I guess loan will release as they build? Ke loan application approve hi nahi hoga?
MSG_1020
In that case price will differ as we are paying on phased manner
MSG_1021
Ya.
MSG_1022
Let me check and i was informed that area is min 2500 sq. ft
MSG_1023
It will be [AMOUNT REDACTED] Investment
MSG_1024
Ya...
MSG_1025
But is this 2.5 cash price or loan pricing?
MSG_1026
Have to check
MSG_1027
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What is the price of down payment and installment
MSG_1029
[AMOUNT REDACTED] ka 25% comes to around [AMOUNT REDACTED] . But banks are saying 20% down lagega..
MSG_1030
😱
MSG_1031
Ghar se bahar ghumi ghumi karna bas
MSG_1032
Sushilji said ke some commercial builders use tricks to get funding and don't payback on the schemes of gachibowli commercial.
MSG_1033
I dont have any such info as i never dealt with one them
MSG_1034
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Rji please co-operate. You both have to adjust for [NAME REDACTED]
MSG_1047
Imagine her life
MSG_1048
I think you have to handle it carefully. First You are a man and it is the responsibility of the man to protect and manage the family.
MSG_1049
If we had not trusted you we would not have sent [NAME REDACTED] .
MSG_1050
I forced her to go early so that you both can spend a good family life.
MSG_1051
Again my suggestions to both of you is that you both should do things keeping in view of each other and [NAME REDACTED] . Dont loose the reins of your married life bcoz it will be difficult to control later.
MSG_1052
My advice by calling u both will not resolve your issues unless u both act sensible
MSG_1053
She has lot of aggression and violent attitude which cannot be resolved by me..
MSG_1054
Now I understand thus Manglik business
MSG_1055
I will speak to her too but be patient
MSG_1056
Okay. But she has to agree on non negotiable rules - No shouting in front of kid, no violence etc. She cannot expect to wake up late and still do her job and increase stress for all. Long term I don't see this working on.
If one needs some opportunities, they have to make sacrifices like waking up early and doing the duties so you can go back to job in time. Right I have to wake her up in morning, she is unable to cope up, creates disturbance due to resulting stress.
MSG_1057
One thing someone has to make her understand that she is not Durga or Kali maa and cannot try to use these silly ideas to justify violence. It's getting out of control. I just cannot cope up.
MSG_1058
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And in this kind of situation anything can happen and we have to regret whole life later on. She is hugely convinced of her spiritual righteousness via Pushti marg, justifies her violent ways and that is something is creating trouble in the family life.
MSG_1060
That is all secondary. How you guys gonna handle each other is the issue. If we cant care our life partner and not ready to sacrifice for each other then it is an issue
MSG_1061
I think the u both have to handle it carefully
MSG_1062
None should intervene
MSG_1063
You deleted this message
MSG_1064
I have promised not to scream or be violent atleast to give basic env for [NAME REDACTED] . If she does turn violent for me that is non negotiable and I will call 911 to avoid anyone from getting permanently hurt. These are basic values both of us should have and I am doing my part. Other things we can handle if this is taken care of by her or by elders coaching.
MSG_1065
There are some basic non negotiable boundaries that we need to adopt. I will depend on our elders advice to restrain us from crossing atleast these basic boundaries of civilized family.
MSG_1066
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I don't know. Chaitra Navaratri hai. Buddhi Brasht ho gayi hai. [NAME REDACTED] ran away from the house with [NAME REDACTED] . Devi will protect [NAME REDACTED] .
MSG_1118
I can suggest you guys one thing. If you both dont handle things carefully then ur marriage will be safe else you both will suffer. No one can help in this regard
MSG_1119
I cannot do anything more. When she fights and kicks me, I meditate and pray. She hits me while I am doing it. She barges into my room when I am screensharing with my team mates during works and shouts.
MSG_1120
I will call her, u be calm and relax
MSG_1121
I will call her
MSG_1122
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I will speak to him aswell
MSG_1124
Hereafter no one will get involved in ur issue. I will the person to discuss
MSG_1125
Ask [NAME REDACTED] to not message [Relation redacted] . My [Relation redacted] unfortunately does not know how to handle this manner. Acting in vindictive manner and messaging [Relation redacted] to make her angry just for purposes of implicating me won't bring her or family happiness and peace. Only entangle her further in Karma. Instead of getting angry, acting in vindictive manner and hating its better if we sit silentlyand us, what is most auspicious and beneficial in the short and long run.
MSG_1126
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It's obvious she is messaging my [Relation redacted] to attempt to implicate her for legal purposes since my [Relation redacted] has no control and does not know what is the matter, what to say and how to handle. This is not expected from what I thought to be such a good family.
MSG_1128
Miss call sorry
MSG_1129
But they should know that there is some issue between u both. Let both the family know what’s happening. They may find some solution
MSG_1130
Speak to Dad.
MSG_1131
Still I m unable to understand what is making u both to go to this extent
MSG_1132
If you want and with everyone together. Talking personally and telling one side of stuff in inflated manner only complicates. It's very clear from our morning call, when she ran away from our joint call.
MSG_1133
No i guess since someone else was there she might have skipped
MSG_1134
Will have a joint call soon after u both are normal
MSG_1135
Same thing happened in Ashish case. She or the family may be under some influence. Things keep going wrong. The intention to be peaceful, compromise and put our ego down is not there.
MSG_1136
U cant take Ashish example bcoz we have Pavanji and sushilji who are leading a happy life
MSG_1137
Never we received a call from pji or sushilji
MSG_1138
I told her let's do sadhana puja together to ward off evil, or atleast see psychologist. She does not want. She may be under some post pregnancy stress that's continuing. I can't say. Professionals can decipher maybe.
MSG_1139
I m surprised as what is wrong between u both
MSG_1140
They have wives that are reasonably sensible. They are not egoistic, vindictive and think themselves street smart. Both sacrificed their personal wealth and careers for family. She wants everything under her control
MSG_1141
Please avoid those Evil or spiritual things in this. I guess these issues are handled with maturity and sensiblely
MSG_1142
What's evil in meditating and prayer. If she continues to torture me like this, only two options left are suicide or prayer to God for help.
MSG_1143
I have been with this family from my marriage and never found anyone behaving abnormal
MSG_1144
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It's [NAME REDACTED] and [Relation redacted] who constantly go to pandits to do puja, ask Mamaji to read Mantras to solve issues. The fact they are believing in some evil in my meditation times says a lot about the faulty way of thinking that's causing the issue. No one called me to ask in detail what happen. They are talking about these silly things instead. We need more mature elder to handle. She is being encouraged in her Paranoia with superstitious beliefs that will take matters from bad to worse.
MSG_1146
Aruna too meets mamaji and i know him. He serve Ramdev Baba and maybe has some healing power but ofcourse doesnt do any evil things against anyone
MSG_1147
That's why I decided to call you even when I feel you are ignoring at times. She won't listen to me or my Dad, her parents are unable to see through the issues to help.
MSG_1148
Okay let me take a step back. Let's wait few days to calm down.
MSG_1149
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Only option then left for me is suicide if not prayer to God. She won't even let me do that. Anything else will destroy [NAME REDACTED] future.
MSG_1154
Why ur using those terms
MSG_1155
Why she will hurt u and what benefit she will get
MSG_1156
She came to US for u
MSG_1157
I guess u have wrong notion about her
MSG_1158
She may be little bit arrogant but she is a good girl
MSG_1159
You tell me - what else is left except going into a room and locking yourself down, praying and meditating to keep calm when someone constantly hits you and conspires to implicate and harm you. My Dad advised me to put a camera 24 hours for safety and self behavior awareness and checks. Why is she removing those and not willing to install camera for safety.
MSG_1160
When I do that - meditation, she is talking about superstition and going into panic Paranoia.
MSG_1161
How can u install camera in a house. All privacy will be gone
MSG_1162
What is making u to do meditation
MSG_1163
U both have a simple life
MSG_1164
Work and live happily together
MSG_1165
Just one place, the Hall. The moment you get angry, some disturbance, come into safety of hall. Living with her in her current state is like walking on place with land mines.
MSG_1166
[NAME REDACTED] is there for all happiness
MSG_1167
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How does she hurt u can u explain
MSG_1169
Let me ask her too
MSG_1170
Will have a joint call 2mrw
MSG_1171
ऐसे पत्नी जिसको मिले इसको संसार से मोह छूट जाता है. वैराग्य उत्पन्न होता है. That's the positive aspect. Meditation gives a joy that cannot be had with any other activity, a volcano of joy. It's unimaginable unless you practice and see for yourself. In current Durga Navaratri. It's obvious something is using her to disrupt my साधन.
MSG_1172
Again why is sadhna needed
MSG_1173
I pray no one in our families has to go through this torture. I do t want to generate any Karma by saying, doing anything bad, atleast in Navaratri.
MSG_1174
U r an educated and working with high level corporate co.
MSG_1175
What made u to do all these
MSG_1176
In my 27 years of marriage masiji has been very spiritual and i was a nastik
MSG_1177
But never this subject came in our lives
MSG_1178
We both did our duties and tried ti keep each other happy
MSG_1179
I once again suggest that do something which she likes and vice versa and enjoy the life
MSG_1180
It is in our own hands to save our married life. No other can solve this
MSG_1181
Aap mujse bade ho. Aapko me kya sikhau.
It's only because of Sadhana that I am able to keep calm in midst of this kind of storm. [NAME REDACTED] is unable to do that. Ashish just behaved very irresponsibly by abusing me and threatening me. [Relation redacted] also abused me last year when I shared the video of her violence with him. He he coached [NAME REDACTED] to not be violent at that time (ref our joint whatsapp call), things would have been different now.
All I know - Sadhana, meditation helps one be calm, think intelligently, forgive people, be peaceful, kind, loving, compassionate and lead other people towards positive outcome, irrespective out outside circumstance. Takes years to have that balance. I am trying hard. [NAME REDACTED] is a really difficult test.
You may have personally done a lot to be calm, mature in your prior births, that's what makes who you are today. I don't know. May be we are not yet there, so we need to perform penance and you don't.
But it's due to lack of Sadhana that when a person A abuse someone B and instead of hitting A back, B meditates, offer prayer to God to help A, A start suspecting intentions and start believing in superstitions. It's called Fight or Flight syndrome. You cannot take right decisions in this mental state. Tremendous meditation is needed to come out of this confused state of mind, very violent.
I myself meditate to avoid getting angry, hateful or self destructive. What's Ashish done here? That could have been avoided had he meditated before sending me any message.
MSG_1182
When I started my meditation practice after bathing it probably took 3-4 hours to get out of confused angry state, slowly practice practice now probably 15 mins. That's the difference,lot of joy. Freedom,Vairagya. Aise hi aye the, aise hi jaana hai kyu samay Emotion or life barbaad kare?
MSG_1183
Unless she does something like that or atleast seeks professional psychological counsel which I am willing to accompany her and have myself also inspected, fighting and behaving in vindictive angry manner will not solve the issue either with me or even a new husband. Same situation will again ana again repeat if basic disease is not cured.
MSG_1184
Going to पंडित and मामाजी etc may be some superficial lipstick treatment but only permanent cure is attitude and behavior change. I am practicing what I am preaching to her, this is not some humbug tantra mantra that [NAME REDACTED] believes in.
MSG_1185
The other part is that having assets in her name, career is giving her ego and arrogance thinking she can do whatever she wants,behave in any way she wants disregarding respect for husband, respect for [NAME REDACTED] family and respect for our traditional marvadi family values. Now also she is staying with her friend Shubhra who is constantly coming to our home during her fights with her husband and is threatening her husband with divorce and 911 calls. Her companionship may be also one bad influence.
MSG_1186
संगति = Shubhra her friend that she is going now to for shelter may not have the right values, she has similar issues of arrogance and bad attitude with her simple minded husband which is common knowledge among our friend circle.
MSG_1187
It's a very positive development that one should always encourage. What's better?Threatening like Ashish or hitting someone while they are meditating OR actually meditating? Please tell me.
MSG_1188
Even in our company and medical insurance, meditation and mindfulness is recommended by medical professionals. It's very hard to stay balance between the testing trials if life otherwise and easy to behave irresponsibly.
MSG_1189
Several articles like this.https://www.everydayhealth.com/meditation/how-meditation-can-improve-your-mental-health/
MSG_1190
If she just spends 30 mins using her choice of patg, she will observe huge difference. As you said there is no issue simply confused state of mind. Similar to They situation you and me were unable to comprehend in Ashish case. We are our own worst enemy. Durga puja is not for harming others. It's for destroying the evil and Mahishasura, Chanda Munda, Shambhala Nishumbha, in your own mind that works in self destructive mode. Stupid people believe in superstitions.
MSG_1191
This is nothing secret. All out in open. There is no superstition. Its funny to me how [NAME REDACTED] and others who may be influencing her are panicking. Durga only helps you to improve yourself not harm others.
https://youtu.be/-zIiutv47FA
MSG_1192
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Now if she prevent me from even doing this sadhana and refuses to calm down, it becomes very evident she is in a very sad state and need help. I cannot help. I myself will sink as she attempts to pull me down with tremendous violence in quicksand with her.
MSG_1194
It's due to meditation, that when she started fighting,I camly went down for a walk instead of reacting. I had to be outside so that there are other people to notice if things go crazy. That's why I am saying we need a 24x7 camera in one place of our house whenever she flares up. Otherwise she is a walking landmine where we cannot know what will happen next. Very very dire situation. I had to pray with tears in my eyes to Mother Durga in tgis Navaratri for help as I have no other option left other than suicide or Durga's help. Her brother and she is planning for revenge, lawyers and all. May be some bad karma from prior births that I unfortunately have to deal with all this crap.
MSG_1195
I feel sorry we are unable to be good parents for [NAME REDACTED] . Kya sanskaar milenge?
MSG_1196
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Now if her objective is to hit me 100 times to get some sudden impulsive reaction from me to implicate me, torture and harass or destroy me , then obviously I am dealing with extremely negative evil mindset.
If this is the case - Most likely [NAME REDACTED] and her family may have been under the unconsciously under influence if pandits they have been visiting who have monetary incentives to fill people who they trap with superstitions, fear, panick, paranoi, so that they have constant source of business. That's their basic modus operandi.
MSG_1198
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With this skill we build our life, without this we destroy our life. That's what my Guru and teachers taught. Nothing else. Does she have this clarity? If not, she desperately needs it because she is hell bent on ruining many lives not just hers, most important [NAME REDACTED]
MSG_1203
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I give her all freedom, same as I want for myself. I went for pilgrimage, she refused to accompany me. Np her wish matters. Although I accompanied several times to Jatipura. She did not come with me to Surat. She went to Australia and spent as many days she wanted. Nothing wrong all good. I appreciate her free spirit.
But how many in Hyderabad will be comfortable with this.
MSG_1206
My expectation is only this:
- No hitting
- No provoking me to get angry by deliberately coming when I am on video call with my team at work to embarrass me and then threatening and bullying by refusing me to allow to do work. Tgis is what happened yesterday. I politely asked her to go out and not speak loudly, multiple attempt she refused I had to push her out of room as I have to attend to people calling me out live in meeting
- No fighting, if there is a tense situation don't carry [NAME REDACTED] with her while fighting in attempt to try to get her hurt so that she can implicate me.
This is very very dangerous behaviors. Need to be addressed. We can have 24x7 camera just in hall to give a safe space to talk and be disciplined otherwise she resorts to violence and attempts to keep trying to provoke me.
MSG_1207
I have repeatedly said same things including camera last year also in joint whatsapp. If I am at fault I should have been afraid recommending these things not her.
MSG_1208
Please you let me know as elder what rules should be in place for decent marvadi family life 🙏
MSG_1209
Her friend Shubhra has similar bullying characteristics. Probably that's the negative influence.
MSG_1210
I am very stressful work project. All this is extremely torturous to handle. Very stressful
MSG_1211
A simple 5 min conversation Ashish could not handle and broke down, started abusing me. I am bearing this constantly and with only one solace, my spiritual practice, meditation. Think about it. Only an evil person would expect me to stop it.
MSG_1212
Relax . I will try to find some balance
MSG_1213
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मैने भेजा ऑडियो कैसे [NAME REDACTED] को सिखाती थी "[NAME REDACTED] pagal hai. [Relation redacted] pagal hai". Or [NAME REDACTED] bolti thi. ये ऑडियो मैंने मंत्री ग्रुप में भेजा था. वोह मेरी बची को खूब गलत गलत बातें सिखाती हैं. कितना गलत है ये सब.
MSG_1215
भगवान ना करे अपने परिवारो में किसी और को ये काले दिन देखने pade.
MSG_1216
उसको solution nahi nikalna hai. Whenever you will talk of next steps, she will say itni hi buri ho to divorce. No talk about clear next steps, what went wrong, only evasive talk, threats. I have constantly asking for help for past two years. Nothing worked, I even shared such terrible teachings she is teaching my kid on Mantri and internal groups. Her family is completely into pandit, tantra, mantra and so on. Even if head pains they go to pandit or Mamaji. In this environment it's really impossible to find any solution. How do you deal with such nonsensical approach. I am worried about [NAME REDACTED] now.
MSG_1217
Stay cool
MSG_1218
Ye sab aise solve nahi hoga
MSG_1219
Till now i m not clear what is going wrong with u both
MSG_1220
Did I not send the audio to Mantri group? Would you appreciate any bahu in our families teaching such things to kids and spreading vile in family. Why is it so hard to figure out some mental imbalance and strict correction is needed instead of Tantra, mantra, lawyer threat, abuses and fights?
MSG_1221
Ye tantra mantra what u r saying is a satisfaction they call mamaji for may petty issues. How does it affect u. It is her belief for some remedy
MSG_1222
Did I not send the video of her violent behavior to [Relation redacted] last year. He turned and abused me instead. Pavan ji called me and started blaming me instead. Did I not pull all of you in a joint whatsapp group to clarify? I want everything to be transparent, open book. Nothing to hide. It's not very hard to figure out what's wrong if honest willingness to correct is there.
MSG_1223
They paid [AMOUNT REDACTED] for Ashish.
MSG_1224
What for
MSG_1225
You deleted this message
MSG_1226
Gautam pandit. There entire discussions took place before me. Not payment though.
MSG_1227
so what is the issue
MSG_1228
Even I do those poojas
MSG_1229
It is only self belief
MSG_1230
No issue none of my business. But since they are involved in tgis they even view my positive constructive actions as negative. In such negative environment what solution can anyone find?
MSG_1231
And it is done for good solution and doesnt harm anyone
MSG_1232
So why they're are getting afraid of my meditation.
MSG_1233
What is your issue with [NAME REDACTED]
MSG_1234
This
MSG_1235
This
MSG_1236
What makes her violent is the issue
MSG_1237
Why she behave like that. What will she gain by that
MSG_1238
Instead of getting right guidance she is being pushed into nonsensical beliefs and being more enraged, arrogant, irresponsible as if she is God.
MSG_1239
That i dont know but for sure they believe in Narayan Kawach which they feel will solve there issues
MSG_1240
She was diagnosed with some post pregnancy depression that may have carried over. I am always willing to help, but she is being encouraged for further negativity and escalation. That's the core issue.
MSG_1241
But never they will say bad for anyone in that grouo
MSG_1242
This again is evidence.
MSG_1243
I felt that she is not confident about you for caring her. I guided her saying that not all men will be the same
MSG_1244
Give him some time and handle things with care
MSG_1245
Even when u were here, i told her not to argue for anything
MSG_1246
A week back I tried to be affectionate, talked offered my apologies for aloofness, for a day she responded and then went back. If I take 10 steps, she has to atleast take 1 step in positive direction. She could have taken that provided this incorrect guidance was not there.
MSG_1247
We r guiding her in proper way and what we will gain by giving negative views about u
MSG_1248
I am not referring to you at all.
MSG_1249
sure things will go proper if u both support each other
MSG_1250
You know you were involved with this aspect last year. It's clear, black and white.
MSG_1251
I think she too might be having a wrong idea about u
MSG_1252
I didnt speak to her yet
MSG_1253
I will check with her too
MSG_1254
Yes. If I walk 10 steps she atleast should walk one. But right no interest, no motivation..
MSG_1255
U be cool and concentrate on your work
MSG_1256
Things will get right
MSG_1257
Because I have been so compromising her family thinks she is doing some favor by staying with me, and saying her things irresponsibily.
MSG_1258
I guess ur thinking wrong
MSG_1259
Which man should tolerate if her wife teaches his kid, you father is mad and ask a 1 year kid to repeat and kid repeats.
MSG_1260
No parents will support this
MSG_1261
In that case she is absolutely wrong
MSG_1262
You know this happened last year. You are witness.
MSG_1263
Yeah
MSG_1264
Why was she not reprimanded last year itself by her family instead of [Relation redacted] abusing me and them forcing Pavanji to reprimand me. When clearly there was video of violence I shared.
MSG_1265
Reason being no one was with her during her pregnancy. Everyone were afraid and u didnt support her well was the info we got
MSG_1266
Sitting here we cant judge but we got info that she was struggling at that time
MSG_1267
Why not was she reprimanded when everyone in Mantri group heard how she was teaching shifty things to my kid and asking her to repeat. Instead they kicked me out of the group.
MSG_1268
I hadshared a recorded audio.
MSG_1269
With her teaching and [NAME REDACTED] repeating.
MSG_1270
I told u that if she said that then she is at fault but think twice what made her to do so
MSG_1271
I have to do this since otherwise she lies point blank
MSG_1272
See we have to understand the issue and resolve and trying to prove who is correct
MSG_1273
This is no argument at all. Tommorow if she slits my throat you will say same thing what made her do. That way all crimes are forgiven. What made her do is her own mental imbalance further pushed by motivation from immediate family members.
MSG_1274
Ego, arrogance, lack of respect, Tamas, Negative Rajas. Why does crime occur? Why do we have court cases?Why do we have fights in the world?Why murders?
MSG_1275
I am think why she behaves with u only and not with others.
If she is not mentally fit then she will behave similarly with others
MSG_1276
Till date no one has complained us about her behaviour for the past 20 years
MSG_1277
That please ask her.
MSG_1278
I am unable to get the point
MSG_1279
I messaged her what makes her think and do so odd things against u
MSG_1280
If she or her family is not interested in any corrections, let me know. It's not that she is a queen, and I am the only person desperate to make amends.
MSG_1281
She can become a queen with love, not with such ego, arrogance.
MSG_1282
I have already provided evidence above. Now upto you 🙏
MSG_1283
TRUE
MSG_1284
Where is she now
MSG_1285
FYI She dod behave very badly with some medical care taker providers during pregnancy and so was questioned for depression check and received strict treatment by 2-3 nurses and medical providers here. Women go through this and come out provided they are not propelled in negative direction by other immediate loved ones.
MSG_1286
Post pregnancy I mean not pregnancy
MSG_1287
Thinking that she is not in a state of good mind u try to cover and sacrifice for her
MSG_1288
Lets see how she reacts
MSG_1289
Maybe for some period
MSG_1290
I honestly feel no one except me wants to find solution so I give up now.
MSG_1291
Hardly she reached US and immediately this is started
MSG_1292
If she is not fine with you why she will come back to US
MSG_1293
You think about it
MSG_1294
Somewhere both of you have created negativity for each other
MSG_1295
unless u both clear that no one can help u either
MSG_1296
Solution can found by u both and others really cannot solve it unless u both try for it
MSG_1297
Calling and telling both is easy for us but executing it is in ur hands
MSG_1298
All this is true but I have reached the conclusion that there is no possibility of her correcting a single step in right direction. All obligation is on me to adjust. She will continue to be incited by her family and encouraged for her behaviors.
MSG_1299
This is proven consistent reality for past 2 years
MSG_1300
Again and again same thing is coming out. Probably her parents and immediate are not happy with their daughters marraige to me and so that's the main issue causing this.
MSG_1301
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Now what's causing that feeling. I don't know, but it's clear that there is 0 attempt to find any solution at all.
MSG_1303
Aap thoda sabar karo
MSG_1304
Will do our best efforts and guide u both
MSG_1305
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How are you?
MSG_1308
How are you both
MSG_1309
• • • (1 intervening message omitted) •
Doing good
MSG_1311
All is well
MSG_1312
[NAME REDACTED] is refusing to make payments towards home mortgage. I was very clear before buying home that this is a huge expense, and I can not bear it on my own.
The only option left for me is to sell the home.
There is no way out. I don't know how to bring her to senses. It's a total failure.
MSG_1313
cool
MSG_1314
Will discuss
MSG_1315
Both have to work on that
MSG_1316
Don’t take tough calls
MSG_1317
Abhi to sirf 1 week hua house leke. I knew this would happen but sooner the better. My Dad also warned me don't buy a house, it's not going to work out. Hence I very clearly told [NAME REDACTED] . I sent her an email before buying since I know otherwise she will lie later. She is totally selfish, untrustworthy and mentally unstable. <This message was edited>
MSG_1318
No. Don’t conclude like that
MSG_1319
House belongs to both
MSG_1320
Unfortunately she does not feel that way.
MSG_1321
If we dont pay in 15 days foreclosure will start.
MSG_1322
You deleted this message
MSG_1323
We discussed with a seller agent. They recommended to wait for an year. It's straightforward loss of [AMOUNT REDACTED] min due to selling expenses on top of [AMOUNT REDACTED] buying expenses already incurred. Sales side expense is typically more.. This assumes we can sell at same cost we bought.
I told her very clearly these things prior to buying. Now she is attempting to emotionally blackmail me by old Marvadi cultural principles that anyways don't apply to our case. It's not going to work out that way. <This message was edited>
MSG_1324
All Indian families in the USA, couples share equal contributions to EMI, and expenses in some proportion of incomes unless the wife is a homemaker and completely dedicated to family or the couple have inherited wealth with monthly cash flow they can use each month. It's what was recommended to us in psychological corporate counseling as well. It's standard practice and even now applicable in India as per the latest newspapers and magazines.
More so, one can not renege after making a commitment and leave your family in the ditch to pursue your own personal financial goals outside the family.
These are some basic things. I feel sorry that I have to even bring these up. <This message was edited>
MSG_1325
I knew this will happen but I something (insight/intution) was inspiring me, "This is necessary as Agni pariksha for your family, [NAME REDACTED] . This is Karma you need to dissolve".
I even got a dream indicating turn of events on the early morning before "we both" signed the contract. I told myself - one day you will have to leave the world, enter this contract with that Spirit. <This message was edited>
MSG_1326
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Masaji, how are you?
A request - I am daily begging [NAME REDACTED] to get me to talk to [NAME REDACTED] on video call fir past 2.5 weeks. She is not doing so. Can you please request her to let me speak to [NAME REDACTED] . 🙏
Whatever decision [NAME REDACTED] takes we will support her. I don’t want her life to be continued in this way. We know what kind of trauma she underwent.
MSG_1357
Let’s see what she wants when we meet
MSG_1358
16 to 19 November works?
MSG_1359
We are planning travels.
MSG_1360
Before 19th
MSG_1361
15 to 18?
MSG_1362
16 to 18 I meant
MSG_1363
If possible make it 16-17
MSG_1364
We will stay in APARNA GUEST HOUSE (Aparna Serene Park, Kondapur) and will arrange for our meeting/s in one of those rooms (not home).
Chacha is just recovering from bypass surgery and needs the convenience of home food. It will also give some private space. <This message was edited>
MSG_1365
Why Aparna Guest House
MSG_1366
Dad and Chacha mentioned - Thoda privacy, home food and less traffic traveling hassle by not going within old city. <This message was edited>
MSG_1367
I don’t think that’s right place
MSG_1368
I will discuss and let you know
MSG_1369
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Our family is very concerned about Chacha's health and recovery. We do not want any kind of stress of avoidable travel. We also need home food for him at meeting place as needed and a peaceful private space for discussion. I am sure you will take care of that and let me know.
Our stay will be at Aparna guest house/associated club house and food for the stay will be taken care over there. This is like a hotel. If you are open to use the meeting rooms in clubhouse, I'd iterate that it has no connection with private homes in Aparna Serene Park. <This message was edited>
MSG_1371
Dont bring him. Better you don’t put this stress to him
MSG_1372
We will have meeting at [NAME REDACTED] place only
MSG_1373
Not even at my home
MSG_1374
You bring some other person maybe kamal rathiji or some other close person
MSG_1375
That is ruled out
MSG_1376
Hotels we have many in hyd
MSG_1377
But we don’t want any such place to be discussed
MSG_1378
It's fine. He wants to come now. That is not possible to change now. Tickets are booked.
MSG_1379
I will ask Dad or Chacha to coordinate directly with you on this topic.
MSG_1380
When r ur tickets booked
MSG_1381
Home Food is available as we will meet at [NAME REDACTED] house.
MSG_1382
No more discussion on this. Its final and I m busy and can’t keep discussing this
MSG_1383
Didn’t update me about ur travel date
MSG_1384
We will be in Hyderabad whole day 16, 17.
MSG_1385
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Attention to [NAME REDACTED] ?
MSG_1390
Multiple times approaching her, she rejected me continuously. There are some issues that we will discuss in person. There are other factors feeding from Hyderabad related to superstition and sorcery which is destroying our relationship.
Ask her how many times I went to Gokuldam and have Darshan, sarsang, prasadam there with her and [NAME REDACTED] to give good family time. Got nothing to do with my personal faith. Why will I go otherwise there? So many times I asked her to come with me (+[NAME REDACTED] ) on nearby Lake for hiking swimming. You can check with Brijesh, when he came both of us swam with [NAME REDACTED] . Which man does not want spark of love in his life. When it does not meet the right response, instead of hunting for it elsewhere, I started to go deep within myself. <This message was edited>
MSG_1391
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I took [NAME REDACTED] for early gifted child test at Kumon learning to enroll her for early math and English classes. Uske liye I sacrificed my work schedule and took leave early 3 pm, picked [NAME REDACTED] from daycare, she got stranger fright and did not clean test. But vapas lane ke baad [NAME REDACTED] fought with me [NAME REDACTED] ko jaldi kyu laye daycare se. We should put our career on low priority in comparison to [NAME REDACTED] developmental efforts. Overwork has given [NAME REDACTED] stress. Change of job to less stressful position or a break might help. <This message was edited>
MSG_1393
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Mostly, women take kids to sleep. I shared that responsibility with [NAME REDACTED] almost 50%, as well as giving her bath, cleanup. I don't consider it anything special, but we must stick to facts.
I guess ur trying to justify ur acts. No one uses red lights or green lights in homes. I guess even at ur own surat house. These acts are not normal
MSG_1399
I respect your opinions. I'd be more interested in something that's backed by study and research and genuine science. There is genuine science behind meditation in lights. It's a very core traditional practice. But one has to approach authoritative sources of info.
MSG_1400
After doing the odds and justifying is not right. Anyways it is upto u guys to take a call on these
MSG_1401
If some has a basic background in these subjects to be able to have a constructive positive dailogue and not fight or mudsling and willing to dig further, I can forward books from authoritative sources, who are masters of this subject. This is my passion based on the values I have recieved from my sattvic ancestors. <This message was edited>
MSG_1402
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Just imagine - Why do we use red cloth in Puja room over which we place our god representative forms? Why do we use Kumkum? For meditation, why do people use traditional red seats? There is science behind all things in Sanatana Dharma. It is very scientific and experiment based. Thats the problem - after Christian and Muslim invasions Bharatiya's lost the tendency to rely on themselves, authoritative sources and instead started following tikdambaaj dhandhadaari Babas who are just looking for their next kill.
MSG_1405
https://www.bing.com/ is a Microsoft product which is one of the largest global corporation. It will provide references to articles, published papers, journals, books.
MSG_1406
Again i can say ur justifying you acts by quoting all this.
MSG_1407
[NAME REDACTED] has various issues from u. When we meet she will express and i am sure u will justify it again. She didn’t even told us anything. Lets see
MSG_1408
Sure. I think if we really want to resolve, we must have an open mind, and so I will be committed to having an open mind.
[NAME REDACTED] only learned Chakra meditation from some of her her Hyderabad teacher that involved color and taught me about it. I think these are just outside layers of the onion that are creating distraction. We need to get to the inner core of the onion and avoid being distracted by the skin. <This message was edited>
MSG_1409
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My path is most mainstream, such that Narendra Modi 🙏 is my Guru-bhai.
He went two times to Swami Atmasthananda to join Sri Ramakrishna Mission but was prodded by the Swami to dedicate life to national service. Swami Vivekananda was the foundation of this mission.
Swami Vivekananda said something like - people of high intellectual and mental capabilities are highly self driven, independent, they neither blindly follow the most immediately accessible crowd nor the family they are born in for such matters.
This is so mainstream that Sri Aurobindo who Modi reveres has written Sri Ramakrishna is an Avataar. Same thing is said by Sri Ravishanlar and other mainstream Yoga people. You go to US everyone knows Swami Vivekananda and Sri Ramakrishna.
https://youtu.be/nx_mD-hn65Y?si=zp9Vq7lOsAZqFIGp <This message was edited>
MSG_1411
Who is practicing or following these. Atleast among my family and friends I didn’t see.
These are not for family man. Your are constantly trying to support your acts and i can surely say that these are all not followed by normal people.
Your justification may not be accepted by all. If [NAME REDACTED] feels these are not good then she has her own choice. Why she need your justification. I leave it to her to take her own decision.
MSG_1412
The above links are really not useful for us. Don’t share all these. No use
MSG_1413
Everyone has their own definition of abnormal. Just to cite an extreme case , if we ask Taliban we know what their version is. I have seen several people in my family following Sri Aurobindo, Ravishankar, and Ramakishna. If we ask Talibanis, they will feel we are abnormal and want to behead us.
Let's go to these places and make random sampling - how many family ppl visit? I know in Sri Aurobindo centre Surat 100 ppl are involved and only 2 are life long bachelors, 0 monks. If we close our minds and not open to any new information facts or evidence then dailogue is not possible.
My commitment has always been to be open-minded, stick to authoritative sources, learned people, based on research, authentic books, and sources. We should go to a university in Hyderabad and ask questions to the most popular professor on this topic, and then we can be confident of our opinions. Or maybe consult well read traveled and learned people who interact with more diverse groups maybe in Mumbai, Delhi etc. (Not even Surat) <This message was edited>
MSG_1414
Tomorrow if I wear red shoes or shirt and she gets scared, we have to address those things. It's a severe issue.
MSG_1415
Comments - These things are not for family people
Response - Is this statement a fact, opinion, is it based on evidence, numbers, what makes us say things? Is there a possibility that this is a unfounded assumption?
MSG_1416
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Its not even good for a constructive, positive, peaceful dialogue in a meeting.
MSG_1418
I don’t understand what u want to convey and prove.
MSG_1419
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Need some guidance from elders like you. How do we determine the basics of how we negotiate, collaborate, request, assist/help. People will think differently, no two people or even families think exactly the same. So what things do we have to consider and use as a solid ground on which we can stand. Where do we seek professional help from authentic sources not to seek revenge, attack, defend, justify, fight, belittle, or hate but to help, collaborate, resolve, and create more love and trust. Lotus blooms out of the mud. This is mud.
Sri Ramakrishna aur Sri Vallabhacharya 🙏 bhi jabardasti involve kar diya. Lol, I guess they both must be laughing. 😀 <This message was edited>
MSG_1421
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I had made it a point in our pre engagement dating phase with all potential suitors I talked to including [NAME REDACTED] about my spiritual and philosophical values. My objective was to scare off very complicated people and families away.
I have always been consistent. The very large number of related books I have on my bookshelf today were always there and similar.
I am not sure what [NAME REDACTED] is trying to convey and prove now.
I think we are getting distracted by skin of the onion and need to constructively peel further.
MSG_1424
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https://youtu.be/fUZpf6Z2RW0?si=tFwkvusKJ6Ao-e_H
Trailer of the App. Free App anyone can access. Om Swami's outlook is very modern, relatively and scientific. The man was a multimillionaire business man who founded multiple companies and then gave everything and became a Swamiji. Now he is using his old skills in this field.
MSG_1439
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https://www.ramakrishnaseminary.org/
MSG_1442
Ye hai Om Swami.
MSG_1443
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https://youtu.be/D-02EFskAcs?si=zfljXWv4l2sGxbGh
If someone indeed remove access to bulb - It takes 2 mins to reset the bulb. Anytime anyone if us wants to change we can just switch on and off the button 3 times and reset it with any phone. I did explain.
Let's say other person did not communicate - In normal state one can easily google and find it out oneself.
But in a state of Tamas the explanation does not pass through our ears to brain. It's okay. Both of us are human. Most of these are misunderstandings in state of Tamas. <This message was edited>
MSG_1445
You have to respond to [NAME REDACTED] messages. How u gonna give her the confidence is in your hands.
MSG_1446
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[NAME REDACTED] wants to close this relationship forever. You too are not happy with this relationship. It is better to close this mutually forever is what the decision is taken after through discussion.
MSG_1458
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Masaji please call or msg me when it's convenient to talk.
MSG_1469
I will call late but i can’t do anything
MSG_1470
[NAME REDACTED] is firm on her decision
MSG_1471
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To be frank you have spoiled your own family life. What have u achieved by practising all those u did
MSG_1475
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I have already told u many a times to stand with ur family and support her. When everything was in your hands u ignored and never considered our suggestions. when its bad u approach us. How do u expect us to keep on solving ur issues.
[NAME REDACTED] has lost all trust and faith in you. As an husband you should have given her all care and love. Instead u have harassed her, ill treated her, disrespected her family. You did all the wrong things available on earth.
I don’t think [NAME REDACTED] will change her decision. She is broken and decided to lead her life on her own.
We all are with her and will do what she decides and will not convince her for anything. This is our collective stand for her.
MSG_1482
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I m tired as of now and this stress is disturbing me
MSG_1485
I will call when my mind is free
MSG_1486
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Masaji, please [NAME REDACTED] se baat kara do aur pics and videos bhejo🙏 <This message was edited>
MSG_1493
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I can’t help in this
MSG_1495
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This is discussed and [NAME REDACTED] wants this to be closed. EMI is not the subject. Better u both part away. Rest live it to destiny.
